Dynamic Skills

cavesomething · Post by **cavesomething** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:19 am

If you make it the only way to get these potions, then everyone will /still/ camp in scorn, which is not the objective.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:07 pm

i know. require an ingredient found only in mlab, of in one of mikee's new maps, so it will cut down on the making of them, but if someones serious about it, they can make stat potions. and also, stop giving out so much as treasure...

cavesomething · Post by **cavesomething** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:55 pm

I don't think that treasure is the issue in itself, the problem is that value doesn't scale properly. There is a way to fix that however, limit the supply of essential goods.

Consider this;

what if
1) food were to rot
2) corpes were to be created from the remains of dead monsters using a butchery skill.
3) food alters were to be removed.
4) farming were possible.
5) create food were removed.

The effect of this would be no more jumbo piles of steaks, and everyone trying to butcher zombie corpses and grow corn before they all starve.

In such an environment, the demand for food would drive up the effective price of food, until such time as enough players farmed to meet demand, it would be more profitable to farm than to quest.

This wouldn't work of course, it would be very difficult to stop farmer bots being launched, and I have no doubt someone would launch them.

Possibly you could do something with wild animal attacks to kill the farmer bots, but even that is a hit and miss approach at best...

Still something to think about.

/me wonders if crossfire would end up with a CAP.....

Rednaxela · Post by **Rednaxela** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:25 am

cavesomething wrote:The effect of this would be no more jumbo piles of steaks...

Awwww... then I would starve so often it's not funny when spellcasting. And what about when I have to go afk unexpectedly and don't have time to put an amulet of sustinance on

cavesomething · Post by **cavesomething** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:00 am

yes, exactly, you would need to pay minion^H^H^H^H^H^H low level players, to bring you food as you needed it....

Bear in mind though that I am considering a decay time of several days, so it woudn't be an urgent requirement, just a constant drain on resources (and therefore money).

Website · Post by **Leaf** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:22 am

cavesomething wrote: Bear in mind though that I am considering a decay time of several days, so it woudn't be an urgent requirement, just a constant drain on resources (and therefore money).

This opens up other possibilties.. food poisoning (new disease?) from partially or badly decayed food.

Decay time greatly decreased by preparing or preserving foods with the cooking skill - orc jerky (or tack), pickled dragon steaks from alchemy and/or cooking, etc.

Rednaxela · Post by **Rednaxela** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:27 am

cavesomething wrote:yes, exactly, you would need to pay minion^H^H^H^H^H^H low level players, to bring you food as you needed it....

Bear in mind though that I am considering a decay time of several days, so it woudn't be an urgent requirement, just a constant drain on resources (and therefore money).

It would be ok... but It would be a major pain... and it hurts spellcasters much more than others, because spellcasters mana recharges at the expensice of food.

I like leaf's ideas on preserved foods

cavesomething · Post by **cavesomething** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:27 am

Yeah, and also have a quest item that is a refrigerator, so that it would store a certain amount of food that might be good for up to 3days/a week in there (longer for things which are less perishable).

It would also make alchemy interesting, when you have to get foo of [strong monster] to your cauldron much more quickly it becomes harder to stockpile and script. (this I consider a good thing)

Mith · Post by **Mith** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:14 am

i assume food like waybread does not decay - its magical elven food

its rather rare anyway.
Oh, and a zombie corpse wont decay fast, its (almost) dry

cavesomething · Post by **cavesomething** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:15 am

zombie corpses would merely be altered to have near zero food value (they are /already/ decayed flesh), other corpses would decay very quickly (a hour, not much more). After that sort of time, most dead bodies are, I believe, inedible (not that I want to test that.... )

waybread would decay, but very slowly (weeks on its own, months in a refridgerator), it would also be made more rare. - if it is supposed to be magical, then it seems to occur rather too frequently at the moment. Reducing the chance in the archtype, and removing most of the fixed ones on existing low level maps should resolve that.