Graphics that need work

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elmex
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Monger wrote:I really like this as a starting point, but unless we up the resolution the images will be fuzzy. Only other option I see is to have a pixel artist tweak the images to display better.
Well, thats propably too much work. It's just that the new
graphics have a different style. An antialiased style,
which is nicely alpha-composed to be underground.
If all graphics go this way, the game will have a consistent
feeling again.

And upping the resolution is IMHO the only way to get better
graphics. It's the perspective of crossfire which reduces the
possible detail you can put in the 32x32 pixels.
All human-like monsters look similar from above :) (a head
and some arms :).

Also re-working all the graphics in GIMP would add around
4 hours to the 4 hours modelling i put into the goblin.

Modelling the things is _the_ way. I belive more people can
open some modeller and model a monster that looks good
at 32x32 (or even 64x64) pixels, than pixeling it in Gimp.

Also note here that you can't just rotate your monster in gimp
and re-render it, you have to redraw it completly.
Having a monster with real 8 directions makes crossfire
much more dynamic. (than with these from-front monsters
like the ogres ...)

I will definitively continue modelling for crossfire+, i don't know
if the crossfire developers are interested in the new graphics, some of them
seem to dislike the new style quite much.
But at least the users on cf.schmorp.de seem to like them
(no complains yet)
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Post by Mith »

by the way, you do not need 8 animations. 4 is sufficient since you can mirror north/south, east/west, NE/NW and SE/SW
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Post by elmex »

Mith wrote:by the way, you do not need 8 animations. 4 is sufficient since you can mirror north/south, east/west, NE/NW and SE/SW
So to the east the monster holds the club in the right hand and
when facing to the left it holds the club in the left hand?
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Post by Aaron »

yes, everyone in crossfire is ambidexterous
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4 animations won't work, since most graphics have a perspective.
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I made a mockup of a cannon, see http://nicolas.weeger.free.fr/article.p ... article=12 for the 4 pics (yeah, they suck, i know ^_-)
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I've gone ahead and redid the spider, just committed it.

Blender model isn't in CVS right now, though.

Of course we can revert back to previous spider if mine isn't nice :)
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Re: Graphics that need work

Post by pb »

I realize that I'm reviving an old topic, but...
Monger wrote: So what monster would you most like to see re-worked? My top picks right now are:

Angel
Big Demon
Demon Lord
Greater Demon
High Angel
Olog-hi
Raas
Titan
Most of the Para-Elementals
...what's wrong with the High Angel and the Raas? Those are two that I liked.

One that really needs to be redone, though, is the Giant Worm. It's using a Final Fantasy image right now.
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pb wrote:...what's wrong with the High Angel and the Raas? Those are two that I liked.
Well, as many (almost all?) pics, they only got pics for 2 (or only one) directions, whereas it'd be much better with the 8 directions :)

But I guess pics can be redone with the same style, of course.
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pb wrote:...what's wrong with the High Angel and the Raas? Those are two that I liked.
Well, as many (almost all?) pics, they only got pics for 2 (or only one) directions, whereas it'd be much better with the 8 directions :)

But I guess pics can be redone with the same style, of course.
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