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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:45 pm
by cavesomething
They might, I believe it is a devourers' enchanted weapon that gets extra attack types, I would fully expect players to do batch enchanting of weapons.

On metalforge I have a non-artifact taifu which has weapon magic attack

Some of the lesser artifact weapons are common, most players have dozens of firebrands for example.

Any of these could be used against weak monsters in place of a chaos sword.

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:52 pm
by Mith
cavesomething wrote:They might, I believe it is a devourers' enchanted weapon that gets extra attack types, I would fully expect players to do batch enchanting of weapons.
all gods add some attack type, some rather worthless, some very useful.
cavesomething wrote:On metalforge I have a non-artifact taifu which has weapon magic attack
AFAIK all taifu's are magic weapons and cant be enchanted - except by praying to some god
cavesomething wrote:Some of the lesser artifact weapons are common, most players have dozens of firebrands for example.

Any of these could be used against weak monsters in place of a chaos
sword.
which is against the spirit of the game as i understand it:
Gain lvls, get stronger, find better equipment. use this equipment to find even better equipment, until you collected the best possible equipment.

(And IMO it should be possible to finally become invulnerable at lvl 115)

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:00 pm
by bort
Actually, there should be about 200 levels. Because at one point, you have to be able to use Rugilli's whisker :twisted:

There should never be invulnerable anything. Because to quote someone "Every strong man has his weak spot'. Fantasy always has people with weak spots.

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:43 pm
by poof
Mith wrote:... so you would end up killing cyclops with a dagger. that would take eternity to kill a few of them.
Actually, a customized dagger of mumble mumble mumble works quite well against cyclops ... once one has sufficient Wc to hit 'em.

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:47 pm
by Mith
poof wrote:
Mith wrote:... so you would end up killing cyclops with a dagger. that would take eternity to kill a few of them.
Actually, a customized dagger of mumble mumble mumble works quite well against cyclops ... once one has sufficient Wc to hit 'em.
true, lvl 51 or 52 onehanded weapons and a dagger with death attack is good enough against cyclops. but not everyone is capable to enchant to mumble mumble mumble and not everyone is (able to reach) lvl 52 one handed weapons.

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:49 pm
by cavesomething
And not everyone should be able to take down a cyclops without risk to their health and/or equipment.....

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:56 pm
by Mith
dont worry, a new started player (so one that has no knowledge) that has to collect his own equipment cant ignore a cyclops, not even at lvl 70

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:16 am
by bort
OH yes, a new player can ignore cyclops, its called Power Dragon Mail +5, and earth walls.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:50 am
by poof
Mith wrote:
poof wrote:
Mith wrote:... so you would end up killing cyclops with a dagger. that would take eternity to kill a few of them.
Actually, a customized dagger of mumble mumble mumble works quite well against cyclops ... once one has sufficient Wc to hit 'em.
true, lvl 51 or 52 onehanded weapons and a dagger with death attack is good enough against cyclops. but not everyone is capable to enchant to mumble mumble mumble and not everyone is (able to reach) lvl 52 one handed weapons.
You misread what I typed. Read what I typed again. Note I did not say "enchant to mumble mumble mumble". I typed something that has a totally different meaning. =)

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:05 am
by Rednaxela
cavesomething wrote:I do think that monsters should attack these when they can't see a player or its pets. This will stop the exploit where earth walls block of high level monsters who are too dumb to realise they are being earthwalled and then zapped repeatedly.
Perhaps, but I think that should only happen if they can either see the player via xray vision or something, or are being hit by a spell. Also, I think that only certain monsters (the more intelligent ones) should be able to do this.