just read a good book, well of darkness. but i found a good idea in it. they have a cult that worships darkness instead of the gods (absence of gods). it gives them some pretty nice spells (like the shadow spells already in the game) but it also requires life points (hp) to cast the spells.
good idea? the requiring hp to cast spells too would keep them from getting real powerful, and have it as a hidden alter somewhere in a hard quest. dont want n00bs stumbling across this...
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Interesting... Sort of sounds 'devourersish' except devoureres is about death and this is more about complete void, not even death.
Might be something worth doing.
In terms of HP cost, I personally think as a precent of maxhp would work nicely to avoid it hurting too much at mid levels and not being too overpowered at very high levels. Perhaps this is overcomplexifing it, but perhaps an avegrage of a fixed number and a precent of maxhp might work nice too so gaining levels has some effect but not as much as a completly fixed value. Or perhaps a similar system to the spells that go up in mana cost as you gain levels in the related spellcasting skill.
Might be something worth doing.
In terms of HP cost, I personally think as a precent of maxhp would work nicely to avoid it hurting too much at mid levels and not being too overpowered at very high levels. Perhaps this is overcomplexifing it, but perhaps an avegrage of a fixed number and a precent of maxhp might work nice too so gaining levels has some effect but not as much as a completly fixed value. Or perhaps a similar system to the spells that go up in mana cost as you gain levels in the related spellcasting skill.
i was thinking just like the mana usage, but from both mana and hp. of course since its under religoin that would probably be hp and gp.
but the advantage is that the spells are all pretty powerfull, and you could use any spell class but healing. might need to be sorted out a bit cause the book puts it under religion, but they are spells, not just prayers. and something to avoid letting other people use void enchanted weapons...
but the advantage is that the spells are all pretty powerfull, and you could use any spell class but healing. might need to be sorted out a bit cause the book puts it under religion, but they are spells, not just prayers. and something to avoid letting other people use void enchanted weapons...
There are some other issues:
-If one were inscribing scrolls of it? Should it use hp from the scrollmaker, or the caster? or should it just plain be disallowed to make scrolls of this cult? I'm personally against completely disallowing, but would need to be made in any case.
-Dening healing makes sense, but what about people using mass scrolls of restoration or heavy rods of (heavy|medium|light) healing? Those could cause that strategy to be unbalanced. I personally thing that rods and scrolls should not be affected by denying for spells anyways (easily explainable with many possible ideas of how putting spells in scrolls works), possibly making scrolls and rods affected by denying of prayers might work ok though and could be explainable with angry gods not wanting to grant the prayer or something.
-If one were inscribing scrolls of it? Should it use hp from the scrollmaker, or the caster? or should it just plain be disallowed to make scrolls of this cult? I'm personally against completely disallowing, but would need to be made in any case.
-Dening healing makes sense, but what about people using mass scrolls of restoration or heavy rods of (heavy|medium|light) healing? Those could cause that strategy to be unbalanced. I personally thing that rods and scrolls should not be affected by denying for spells anyways (easily explainable with many possible ideas of how putting spells in scrolls works), possibly making scrolls and rods affected by denying of prayers might work ok though and could be explainable with angry gods not wanting to grant the prayer or something.
It should take from the caster.Rednaxela wrote:There are some other issues:
-If one were inscribing scrolls of it? Should it use hp from the scrollmaker, or the caster? or should it just plain be disallowed to make scrolls of this cult? I'm personally against completely disallowing, but would need to be made in any case.
This is a problem for many chars. But how many scrolls can you amass of restoration?Rednaxela wrote: -Dening healing makes sense, but what about people using mass scrolls of restoration or heavy rods of (heavy|medium|light) healing? Those could cause that strategy to be unbalanced. I personally thing that rods and scrolls should not be affected by denying for spells anyways (easily explainable with many possible ideas of how putting spells in scrolls works), possibly making scrolls and rods affected by denying of prayers might work ok though and could be explainable with angry gods not wanting to grant the prayer or something.
How easy is it for many who go against the DA at level 50?
I think this should be untouched. Its enough of a handicap for devourers player denied restoration. Add this to the void religion, and you have what your looking for.
Now, about weapons:
my question is:
1. The altar blesses it. To what attacktype?
2. Will the religion be bent purely on destruction (to make nothing, you have to destroy something) and have cult-only spells to destroy, but denied to all healing and benevolent spells?
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Indeed, your points are quite true, though one thing:
(btw. I'm open for trade if anyone who I would trust with such destructive scrolls has good offers)
I happen to have a stash of about 10 000 scrolls of meteor swarm varying in level from 50 to 100, and it didn't even take scripting, just a good keybinding, and the smarts not to kill myself in the processbort wrote:But how many scrolls can you amass of restoration?
(btw. I'm open for trade if anyone who I would trust with such destructive scrolls has good offers)
hah, scrolls of meteor swarm are deadly for everyone not immune to fire 
if you want to inscribe spells that, when casting cost both mana/grace and hp, it should consume hp during inscription, not when reading the scroll.
by the way, are devourers players not only repelled restoration?
weapon blessing, it should be draining, depletion or chaos, i think. these three all fit the idea of 'darkness', especially chaos does
if you want to inscribe spells that, when casting cost both mana/grace and hp, it should consume hp during inscription, not when reading the scroll.
by the way, are devourers players not only repelled restoration?
weapon blessing, it should be draining, depletion or chaos, i think. these three all fit the idea of 'darkness', especially chaos does
Bibendi ergo sum
or rather: sum ergo bibendi
or rather: sum ergo bibendi
Yeah,
inscribing should steal hp too..
And scrolls should steal hp from the caster..
Think about it,
Taking time to read a scroll while surrounded by chaos wyverns? In that time, theoretically you have let your gaurd down.. so the penalty to emulate that is maybe 2-7% hp..
inscribing should steal hp too..
And scrolls should steal hp from the caster..
Think about it,
Taking time to read a scroll while surrounded by chaos wyverns? In that time, theoretically you have let your gaurd down.. so the penalty to emulate that is maybe 2-7% hp..
lordyoukai.DA
My wraith is cooler than your dragon.
My wraith is cooler than your dragon.