What did it take?

dstone09 · Post by **dstone09** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:24 am

What all did it take to make cross fire? what tools were used how long did it take?

mikeeusa22 · Post by **mikeeusa22** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:30 am

The gimp. Nedit/vi/vim/emacs/pico/jed?. Image Magic (i think)
And 10 GRUELING YEARS OF HARD MANUAL LABOR.

Remeber: ..

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:38 pm

I think he meant to ask in more detail. As in the server + maps + the clients + website + scripts, and to get it to the state in which it is seen today.

The detail of how it started I do not know either, it would be interesting if someone who has been in the project right from the begining could post a shortish "history of CF" (like ideas behind the concept, how they changed with time, what problems came up and how they were solved)

Tools used were (others are free to append to my list!):
- The Gimp & Image Magic (graphics)
- Java map editor & crossedit (map editors)
- ant & javac (java map editor make & compiler)
- <a few dozen different text editors> (code editing)
- make & gcc (make & compiler)
- cvs (code versioning system)
- MS Visual Studio 6 (windows port)
- perl & python (scripts like metaserver, banking and mail)

Timewise - When is(was?) the 10th anniversary of CF?

cavesomething · Post by **cavesomething** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:45 pm

I think it already passed, crossfire website has some background

http://crossfire.real-time.com/intro/index.html

(read the mailing list thread....)

bort · Post by **bort** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:16 am

Bes sure to add Misc. Code editors: Kdevelop, etc,.

cavesomething · Post by **cavesomething** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:12 am

Does anyone here actually use IDEs? I find they merely serve to get in the way, and only tend to be used by windows people who don't know what a compiler is....

Rednaxela · Post by **Rednaxela** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:35 am

cavesomething wrote:Does anyone here actually use IDEs? I find they merely serve to get in the way, and only tend to be used by windows people who don't know what a compiler is....

I agree, every time I've tried to use Kdevelop or Ajunte, they just get in the way. and in the rare cases when I do windoze development, I only use IDEs because I have no other syntax highlighting text editor under windoze and because windoze compilers don't have proper command line documention... and also because windoze does'nt have a proper command line...

bort · Post by **bort** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:20 am

I use IDE's primarily for the code coloration and syntax checking. I like GUI's, but I work also in just a shell editor and use gcc rawly.

cavesomething · Post by **cavesomething** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:02 am

And yet the IDE you mentioned, kdevelop, uses kate as its editor component anyway. So the syntax highlighting and code folding are easily done with an editor which doesn't have 500 different things that will never be needed.

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:17 pm

Rednaxela wrote:
cavesomething wrote:Does anyone here actually use IDEs? I find they merely serve to get in the way, and only tend to be used by windows people who don't know what a compiler is....
I agree, every time I've tried to use Kdevelop or Ajunte, they just get in the way. and in the rare cases when I do windoze development, I only use IDEs because I have no other syntax highlighting text editor under windoze and because windoze compilers don't have proper command line documention... and also because windoze does'nt have a proper command line...

What do you have against the Windows port of vim+gcc? If you want a GUI text editor with syntax highlighting there's TextPad.

Personally I use KDevelop. This way I don't have to spend ages learning to use make/autoconfigure, can step through the code in the editor, the compiler errors are automatically matched against the source code, and I can search the whole source, recompile with one click, and make a package for release, run valgrind to check for memory leaks, keep a subversion repository, generate API documentation with doxygen...

I could do it all by hand, but it just takes longer and has no nice keyboard shortcuts from the editor!