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New player or slayer?

Post by SuMo »

Hi, Just found the game when searching the net for coop-games.
Was stunned when I realized I had missed this game.
Now I must try this game out and have some fun. :wink:
This forum seems to be active and hopefully someone might be friendly enough to get me started. 8)
Where to download relevant files and so on.

My system is sadly a M$-XP system, SP1a. :oops:
running a XP1800+, 512MB ram.

I found the SDK-site of Crossroad with many client- and server-files.
Which of them are playable on my system?

If it is very fun, can the server be running on a PII-450, 128MB ram? (10mbit). What is the recommended requirements for a server?
What files to use with that? (also m$-XP, SP1a)

Which server is the most active right now, so I can evaluate the gameplay? (I might be of some use in the future)
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My server is a PII-233 with 256MB Ram. It is a bit slow maybe, but it works.
In the past I did manage to compile the server on windows, but I haven't tried for months.

The most active server is metalforge, it even has its own website:
http://www.metalforge.net/

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Re: New player or slayer?

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SuMo wrote:Where to download relevant files and so on.

My system is sadly a M$-XP system, SP1a. :oops:
running a XP1800+, 512MB ram.
It's not that hard to find really.. you probably want to try out Windows port of the GTK client at http://crossfire.real-time.com/clients/index.html. According to what I've heard, the DirectX client does not work properly on Windows XP.
SuMo wrote:If it is very fun, can the server be running on a PII-450, 128MB ram? (10mbit). What is the recommended requirements for a server?
What files to use with that? (also m$-XP, SP1a)
I was running CF server on Pentium 200MHz with 32MB ram sometime back and I don't recall having any problems.
SuMo wrote:Which server is the most active right now, so I can evaluate the gameplay? (I might be of some use in the future)
You might want to choose server by latency, not the amount of players..

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Post by dark.schneider »

Wellcome to the comunity SuMo :)
We are often on irc if you want to meet with others, but for questions forum or cf-devel mailing list are still the best.
A good idea for having your computer work better is uninstalling XP, that will free up lot of space and resources :)
Normaly programs (and cf too) tend to work MUCH better in a working OS.
Anyway hope you manage to get cf work on your wintendo so we will soon meet on servers :)
I'm DM at crossfire.jyu.fi, quite fast server, but allways backtodate and unreliable, but sometimes I run dm events there.
About your main system it's a quite ok, count 1800xp -1000xp= 800xp, cf should work on it and for your 51.2 mb ram it's ok too for the client.
For the server, if you aim to offer a good and reliabe service, forgot wintendo, since there are just too few resources for that os and cf.
Anyway with linux i think it should just work good, up to 10 players, sadly cf still lack some optimization for many players (they are coming with new relases). Dont' forgot that ram help a lot in all server thingies, and cf is not an exception at all!
See you soon
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Post by hoxu »

~start an os war

We are speaking of a game here.. and Windows is still the best OS for games (generally speaking). So *please* supress your semi-religional comments.. even if you've got a point there :)

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Post by dark.schneider »

Cf is not that type of wintendo game.
Like adventures games did not run on arcade machines.
If you want a working server you need *nix or your service will be probably crap.
Anyway I wanted to transmit SuMo that his OS choice is not helping him :)
And maybe if he want a to set up a server this can be the right moment to see linux rock!
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Post by philc »

Well, if I wanted to play a game and someone came along and told me that I've got the wrong OS to play it, I would leave immidiately. There are players out there who use windows (Ryo for example). And Michael Toennies has worked quite a long time on porting the server. I don't know if the server currently works with windows but I don't think that it's impossible to make it work.

This is the wrong place to start a flame war about the right OS. This forum is to help other players. SuMo is obviously new to the game and scaring people away because they use windows really won't make the game any more popular. These are the kind of answers we do not want.
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Maybe you simply missread my post. You suppose I said he can't play, I said he will have difficulties to run a server.
So what's unrealistic in that?
Yes yes, for you probably an most veteran player out there changing some part of code to make it compile under win is not a big issure, but , just to remember you, most wintendo users out there do not even know what a compiler is. Yeah nice example mich... you can say anything about him, but he is a guru, and so probably he can make most semi-ported software work on win. Bring a more realistic example. We can make a bet! We take a random win user and see if he can set up a cf server, if you theory is rigth everyone can do that.
If my theory is rigth he will take some time too.. it's not impossible just definitely hard.
About the client i expressed difficulties for it too, not so many as the server, but you can't say there aren't.
As I can see your tactics to get more players is to lure them with something like "cf is easy, good, addictive, nice..." . I prefer not luring them, but saying them the plain truth. Imo this is more open source style.
So I rebate.
Installing ther client can be tricky, it can often crash during use (ask ryo) and leave you out of the server for time, in witch your player can (rarely) die.
Intalling a server can be harder, and the service offered will probably not be great.
Now just try to read twice before replying!
Maybe it's my english, maybe not.
Need some bold?!
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Post by hoxu »

philc wrote:Well, if I wanted to play a game and someone came along and told me that I've got the wrong OS to play it, I would leave immidiately.
You got the point.
philc wrote:And Michael Toennies has worked quite a long time on porting the server. I don't know if the server currently works with windows but I don't think that it's impossible to make it work.
From my logs:
2003-05-28 michtoen wrote:20:44 < michtoen> i ported the cf server 2 years ago to ms windows
20:44 < michtoen> and it runs fine
If I recall right, I also saw binaries of Crossfire server for Windows with a nice installer. Don't remember where, though..
dark.schneider wrote:Yes yes, for you probably an most veteran player out there changing some part of code to make it compile under win is not a big issure, but , just to remember you, most wintendo users out there do not even know what a compiler is. Yeah nice example mich... you can say anything about him, but he is a guru, and so probably he can make most semi-ported software work on win. Bring a more realistic example. We can make a bet! We take a random win user and see if he can set up a cf server, if you theory is rigth everyone can do that.
It is up to the developers to make the game easy to set up and play. Unless they only want to attract gurus like themselves.

Do you disagree with me here?

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Post by dark.schneider »

Answering a question with a question is just not an answer.
And you you make so, just to not answer to others questions, then you a kid.
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