Some RPGs for Windows and Linux

MisterP · Post by **MisterP** » Wed May 14, 2003 7:18 pm

I know alot of you may be Crossfire fans, but I was wondering, if any of you were interested in alternatives to Crossfire. I mean, I am a fan of MANY MMORPGs. Here is a link to one, and I am giving names if you want to google for them.

Furcadia
Blade Mistress (Google for it as I don't have the link anymore).
Arianne
Realms of Chaos

Multiplayer Dot Com

Finally, there was an Online RPG beta testing mega site, which you can google for called the Online Beta Testers Guild. That's how I got in on the W3 expansion beta. And heard about Dransik and Blade Mistress.

Enjoy.

hoxu · Post by **hoxu** » Wed May 14, 2003 7:23 pm

Arianne (http://arianne.info/)

hoxu · Post by **hoxu** » Fri May 16, 2003 5:15 pm

Name: Aeon Legend
Site: http://www.aeonlegendonline.com/
Free / source available: Yes/Yes
Platforms: Windows

Name: Arianne
Site: http://arianne.info/
Free / source available: Yes/Yes
Platforms: Linux, AtheOS, BeOS, Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP, MacOS, Solaris, Irix

Name: Runescape
Site: http://www.runescape.com/
Free / Source available: Yes/No
Platform: Java

Name: Dransik Classic
Site: http://www.dransik.com/classic/
Free / Source available: No/No
Platform: Windows

Name: Thildor
Site: http://spide.ath.cx/zunex/
Free / Source available: Yes/No
Platform: Windows

Name: Tibia
Site: http://tibia.4players.de/
Free / Source available: Yes/No
Platform: Linux, Windows 95/98/ME/XP/2000

Lauwenmark · Post by **Lauwenmark** » Fri May 16, 2003 8:06 pm

http://tibia.4players.de

Ugliness overall value: 84% (Definitely Ugly)

philc · Post by **philc** » Fri May 16, 2003 8:18 pm

But why do those ugly RPGs get more players than CF does?

hoxu · Post by **hoxu** » Sat May 17, 2003 5:49 am

philc wrote:But why do those ugly RPGs get more players than CF does?

Good question, although I personally think Tibia looks better than Crossfire.

I don't care whether the game looks good or not.. it's all up to how playable it is. If the interface is really simple and easy to learn a lot of people will try it out.. and eventually some of them will get hooked.. and that way, even more people hear of the game, try it out and start playing it (semi-)regularly.

Also.. those prosperous closed source projects are usually very centralized. One server, one messageboard, zero scary mailing lists (go and ask a regular windows user what a mailing list is) and so on..

Lauwenmark · Post by **Lauwenmark** » Sun May 18, 2003 8:30 am

This is indeed a good question. I asked some Tibia players around me why they didn't like Crossfire. Some of the answers I got:

- Graphically poor: You may find Tibia ugly, but it is the general opinion that it is less ugly than Crossfire. Smooth moves is probably the most important point about that;

- Lack of environment interaction: Crossfire is basically limited to bash'n'crash. Tibia has a more complex economical system, and is able to interact with the game environment in a larger variety of ways;

- Interface: The interface of Crossfire is in general considered ugly, because it leaves only a small space for the game view, the rest being consumed by various stats, equipment and log windows;

- World Size: The world of Tibia seems larger than the world of Crossfire, and as such offers a longer gameplay.

The argument saying that "Crossfire is free, and as such you're free to expand it if you want" isn't a concern for most players - they're players, not coders.

philc · Post by **philc** » Sun May 18, 2003 9:24 am

Maybe we should consider these points and try to use them to improve Crossfire. Bigworld map and the new skill system might already help a bit but the economy in Crossfire is still a large problem.

dark.schneider · Post by **dark.schneider** » Sun May 18, 2003 4:06 pm

Map is bigger than cf??!! I think it's greatly impobable, simply if they tried cf they quitted before exploing it.
Anyway bigworldmap cuts the head off to that problem.
For economic system I have a draft ready for it, but it needs review and in the condition I'm now, I think it will not be ready anytime soon. I accept help for this work.
Enviroment interaction will be improved if someone writes some AI for the npc an with DM events.
Anyway for me the main concern is to fix economy, that's most important for players.

Lauwenmark · Post by **Lauwenmark** » Tue May 20, 2003 1:24 pm

dark.schneider wrote:Map is bigger than cf??!! I think it's greatly impobable, simply if they tried cf they quitted before exploing it.
Anyway bigworldmap cuts the head off to that problem.

Let me be clearer about that point.

By "bigger map" I had not only the global size in mind, but also the number of things on it. The bigworld map may be much bigger than the older CF world, yet it doesn't contain more dungeons. A huge but (quite) empty map isn't sufficient to captivate new players - more than that, they're usually quickly bored to find nearly nothing in the vast world.

So I globally disagree with the idea that bigworld solves the world size problem - it is just a starting point, but not a self-sufficient solution IMHO.